Using the ADA and ABA Standards Series: Chapter 8: Special Rooms, Spaces, and Elements (Part 2)

Thursday, October 1, 2020
2:30 PM - 4:00 PM Eastern Time Zone


This session is the second session in the series addressing the scoping and technical provisions for special rooms, spaces, and elements in the ADA and ABA Accessibility Standards (Chapter 8). This session will address the requirements for medical care & long-term care facilities, holding and housing cells, courtrooms, residential dwelling units, transportation facilities, and storage. Part one of the chapter 8 sessions addressed the other sections of the chapter. Presenters will address common sources of confusion and frequently asked questions about these provisions.

Continuing Education Recognition Available

Certificate Credit hours
California Architects Board 1.5
Certificate of Attendance 1.5
ICC 1.5


Juliet Shoultz, Transportation Engineer, Office of Technical and Information Services

Bobby Stinnette, Accessibility Specialist, U.S. Access Board

Questions for presenters:

1 As an Architect and access specialist my professional standard of care requires that I design facilities so as to afford persons with disabilities access to and use of mail boxes. In order to meet the proportion of mailboxes (228) positioned to meet reach range requirements (308), particularly in alteration projects (such as in multi-family housing), mailboxes must sometimes be labeled non-sequentially. This can and often does create a conflict with USPS 4C guidelines. Has the USPS acknowledged that in order to accommodate the needs of persons with disabilities the placement and therefore the numerical ordering of mailboxes needs to be reasonably flexible. Several Postmasters continue to deny such flexibility and are therefore violating ADA Title II (failure to modify its policies that have the effect of denying persons with disabilities the benefits of USPS services). Thank you Craig Williams CASP 005
2 Please provide concrete examples of "Residential Units". There are many jurisdictions which enforce this on market rate, multi-family housing covered by FHA. No low income, educational, uses. Many of the jurisdictions have not adopted the IBC Chapter 11 or deleted it from their adopted model code. E.g. Dormitories, Congregate care, homes used to house 4-6 people with a disability (eg Downs Syndrome or mental illness), Long term care facilities--Independent living vs. Assisted Living vs. Skilled Nursing (if it there is a difference), HUD financing, Section 8 housing, What are the types of funding sources which would trigger the required compliance with Residential Housing: tax credits, land grant/city land w/ private developer, etc.
3 Many college communities have apartments (flats or townhome style) with 4 bedrooms/4 bath and a shared kitchen, living and laundry. When counting the number of units in the complex is each "apartment/townhome" counted as 1 or each "bedroom" (separate leases typically) counted as 1 (= 4x the number of units in the project).
4 How are Fraternity and Sorority houses viewed? Some are on campus and others are just barely off-campus across the street. If students receive scholarships, grants, or other government funding, does this trigger up an ABA requirement. Or if the University builds the houses vs. a private developer?? Or are they viewed as FHA? Or transient lodging?
5 Fig 804.2.1 shows a pass through kitchen. 804.2.2 shows a U-shape kitchen. What is a kitchen considered when it looks like 804.2.1 but has a dead end at a wall? Is that then a U-shape kitchen requiring the 60" min?
6 ADA only allows a 24" max reach to the rear wall over a 34" aff countertop. Appliances typically push the 30" x 48" clear floor space off the face of the cabinet by 2" (range) to 8" (frig). Even a 3/4" to 1" countertop nosing is beyond 24". There are no standard manufacturers which make a narrower base cabinet set. How are people achieving an accessible outlet on the rear wall over the kitchen counter/backsplash within 24"? This seems to be a real problem in "micro apartments" where there is 1 wall of kitchen with Sink, range, 12" counter, refrigerator, 12" pantry. There is rarely more than 1 section of countertop which is within the reach range to the back wall. (IBC typically requires an outlet on each section of countertop). If the wheelchair can be aligned (and scraping the millwork) against the base cabinet does that constitute the 24"(and have the bullnose in your armpit)? Creative solutions appreciated.
7 Is it better to have an outlet on the dead-end wall of a kitchen, close to the front edge of the countertop vs. over the countertop when the countertop is only 12" or 15" wide and beyond the frig?
8 In Physical Therapy exercise rooms, Occupational Therapists often have a 'home set-up' with a residential type kitchen, bedroom and bathroom set up. Their purpose is not as a bedroom, kitchen, or bathrooms for the patients to use, but as a training area to help patients who are in rehab to re-learn basic life skills that they will need when they return to their homes. Are these areas reviewed as a treatment area or as kitchens, bedrooms and bathrooms that must meet the technical requirements of the ADA Standard? Is there a balance between strict compliance, safety for the patients and caregivers, and real-world conditions to help them deal with their release back to their everyday world?
9 Since BBQ areas are not considered kitchens, how do you apply 606.2 Exception 1 to permit a parallel approach “permitted to a kitchen where a cooktop or conventional range is not provided”?
10 In what way is the ADA enforcing the accessibility for people with disabilities, primarily Brain Injury, Mental Illness, Epilepsy, cognitive/memory/understandment in Courts? What, other than personally request, which was denied, a way can one receive accommodations in which they are able to participate in proceedings, by requesting accomodations in a different setting (ie) Jury room, conference room or a room of less intimidation, less threatening?

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